when he permitted children to participate, it was the moral linchpin, it was the turn in the moment of our struggle when the peoples of the world saw us in n another context as a people. if you could do 20 our young what those police officers and those forces of eevepl in birmingham did, the world saw -- evil in birmingham did, the world saw it. you look at katrina, the abysmal way in which that tragedy was treated was another reflection of a loss of america's moral appetite. it had no deep human regard for the struggle of our brothers or sisters, black and white. in katrina. yet they had billions of dollars to put into a war in afghanistan, into the war with pakistan now, and still with iraq and now moving on to yemen.